Pantagraph.com | News | Saluto calls off 'Farm' girls calendar

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Aretrytange wrote on Nov 23, 2007 10:12 AM:

" Saudi Arabia and Libya were the source of about 60 percent of the foreign fighters who came to Iraq in the past year to facilitate attacks. "

would you all please wrote on Jan 19, 2007 2:47 PM:

" stop calling this guy a photographer he is second rate at best and makes the real photographers look bad! "

Shocker wrote on Jan 19, 2007 11:17 AM:

" We all knew it wouldn't happen. Why would Saluto need to do a calendar, since the Pantagraph gave him all that free press? "

SFRetiree wrote on Jan 18, 2007 11:31 PM:

" You call me a "grumpy old man" and this isn't rude? And calling me an "old timer" isn't rude? You're obviously one of the new breed of know-it-alls. This discussion started out being about the calendar of the SF girls that has been tabled, thank goodness. I for one am glad that the sexist idea of the calendar was tabled. And to let you know, I'm a 60 year old grandmother with almost 28 years of service at The Farm before I retired. "

To SF Retiree wrote on Jan 18, 2007 7:09 PM:

" Hey old timer, you've been out of it a while, haven't you? First of all, it's not against policy to surf. It is allowed over lunch and is to be used primarily for business use otherwise. Note, primarily. Second, see the time stamp? Ever heard of people working hours other than 8-4:15? I think it's a good thing you retired. I hate dealing with grumpy old men like you. "

Days off? wrote on Jan 18, 2007 6:51 PM:

" Does anyone out here condemning people for posting "during work hours" ever think maybe people posting have alternate work hours or have vacation days? Not everyone who works for State Farm (or many companies) works an 8-4 Monday through Friday shift. People out here are so quick to make assumptions! I work a split shift and have middays free. Guess I shouldn't be on the Pantagraph during midday because someone might think I'm posting here instead of working. Yikes. "

Bill Lumbergh wrote on Jan 18, 2007 6:18 PM:

" Oh, and remember: next Friday... is Hawaiian shirt day. So, you know, if you want to, go ahead and wear a Hawaiian shirt and jeans. "

SFRetiree wrote on Jan 18, 2007 6:08 PM:

" Also, if you're so busy being productive all day, in business suit or khakis, why do you have time to be online looking at the newspaper on the internet when that's against company policy to surf the web at work? "

to: To: Cynic wrote on Jan 18, 2007 4:37 PM:

" You do realize they were being sarcastic, right? "

Another old coot wrote on Jan 18, 2007 4:36 PM:

" Hey now, not all retired SF folks are so uptight. Some of us actually left because we got so fed up. Actually, as much as I had to admit it, you all might want to start yourself a union. "

To SF Retiree wrote on Jan 18, 2007 4:13 PM:

" Oh yes, you are so right - sitting here at my desk on my butt all day in a business suit makes me SO much more productive than if I was sitting here in khakis or jeans. I, for one, am glad that people aren't as shallow and materialistic as you anymore. I don't base someone's self-worth on what they wear. "

Please... wrote on Jan 18, 2007 3:03 PM:

" State Farm has no pride... "

To: You should wrote on Jan 18, 2007 3:02 PM:

" Be careful little lady. It is all of us order takers who buy car insurance from SF to keep you in a job so you can degrade us and no I won't forget your "senior" discount... "

To: Cynic wrote on Jan 18, 2007 3:01 PM:

" Sorry buddy but SF doesn't "own" it's people. "

All righty then--------- wrote on Jan 18, 2007 1:52 PM:

" Well, what do you think? I already said how I felt. "

To: I wonder and the Reply wrote on Jan 18, 2007 1:30 PM:

" That is soooo funny.......dont forget to fill out defects for any part of the process that goes wrong.....LOLOL "

Don't Work For The Farm wrote on Jan 18, 2007 12:47 PM:

" Why should Mr. Saluto be allowed to profit at the expense of a company that has spent many years building a reputation as one of the world's finest insurance companies? Why is it censorship protect a name which you own the rights to? Why are so many people in this town bitter about State Farm? They are directly responsible for most of the jobs in this area and they pay decent wages! "

Oh Please... wrote on Jan 18, 2007 12:43 PM:

" Freedom of speech is alive and well.... More like State Farm, or any company for that matter, is not going to give you a free publicity boost based on their copywrite/trademarked/branded information. You would think that someone who has the first clue about publishing ANYTHING would understand that much. "

You should wrote on Jan 18, 2007 12:15 PM:

" all be jealous b/c we are better than any of you. Now get back to taking my order and don't forget my discount, as to futher degrade you. SF PRIDE!!!!! "

congrats anthony wrote on Jan 18, 2007 11:53 AM:

" he did get some applications to "admire" in the process though. That may have been a motive as well. "

Michelle wrote on Jan 18, 2007 11:50 AM:

" Mmmmmmmmm, construction men, yum! I'd buy a calendar. Oh, and Bill Lumberg, that's the funniest post I've seen in months!!! "

To Candy wrote on Jan 18, 2007 11:28 AM:

" That's not what I heard... "

to Ed Jr. wrote on Jan 18, 2007 11:10 AM:

" GO BEARS!!!!! "

irony wrote on Jan 18, 2007 11:07 AM:

" Am I the only one who finds it funny that the State Farm spokesman addressing this issue is named Supple? Sounds like just what they were looking for, for the calendar. "

congrats to saluto wrote on Jan 18, 2007 11:04 AM:

" at least he got some "applications" to drool oover before he pulled the plug. "

Other insurance companies wrote on Jan 18, 2007 11:04 AM:

" As someone else astutely noted out here, State Farm is NOT the only insurer that is embroiled in legal battles over the situation in NO. We just hear about State Farm in the news more because of the size of the company and the fact they are local news here, so the Pantagraph keeps writing about it. Everyone goes after the company with perceived "deep pockets". If you have a specific complaint or concern about how things were handled in New Orleans, perhaps you should write a letter to State Farm or contact their media spokesperson rather than speculate and condemn without really having all the facts. Or travel to NO and sit in a courtroom and listen to all the evidence, same as with any other legal situation that makes the news. You might want to contact other insurance companies as well, since I'm sure SF didn't insure 100% of the properties in LA and MS. "

Misc wrote on Jan 18, 2007 11:00 AM:

" To: question: For more information on Pace Palette, go to https://www.trustworksgroup.com/products/sub_categories.php?id=16 This is used by other companies besides SF, but has been used by SF in an effort to help people learn how to work better together and try to avoid personality conflicts on the job. It's beneficial and is not a "clubby" thing that SF uses to try to create an elite group of people; it's a work tool any company can use. As for the calendar, the majority of comments out here were either against the calendar or sounded like they were written by prepubescent boys. There was not a lot of mature support for it. That is my take on what Saluto meant by his comment about freedom of speech being alive and well here. "

to: question wrote on Jan 18, 2007 10:40 AM:

" A Pace Palette is a personality test similar to Myers Briggs. Your results are based on 4 colors. Yellow=Responsible, Green=Curiosity, Red=Adventure, and Blue=Harmony. Try it online. "

Tradmark wrote on Jan 18, 2007 10:39 AM:

" Hey,, any body out there ever heard of Registered Trade Marks? It is not uncommon for private companies to stop people from using their names or other tradmarks without proper authority. This guy obviously didn't think this through. "

Free Speaker wrote on Jan 18, 2007 10:26 AM:

" What exactly did Saluto mean by saying "Freedom of speech is alive and well in Bloomington-Normal"? Pardon my naivity, but was he using sarcasm to insinuate censorship? If that was his intent, then I'd have to agree with him. "

jimmy wrote on Jan 18, 2007 10:19 AM:

" saluto caved and SF gave it to NO yet again. a win-win. "

tony's broker wrote on Jan 18, 2007 10:08 AM:

" c'mon, tony. change the name from sf to central illinois. if you get too many "applications" i just bought a new cannon digital. this is the funniest group of postings i've ever seen. sounds like great fodder for DILBERT. "

SFRetiree wrote on Jan 18, 2007 9:38 AM:

" Maybe some will see me as an old coot complaining about young women and their looks, but that's far from true. State Farm doesn't need this type of adverse publicity, there's already enough of it going around. Nudie calendars are sexist, so if the project had moved forward, it would have been appropriate for both men AND women, attired appropriately for the workplace, to have been in the calendar. Notice I said "attired appropriately" - meaning no navels showing, no jeans barely hanging onto hips, no cargo pants, no flip flops which seems to be the attire accepted there now. I'm happy to be retired and away from the flagrantly ignored rules of proper dress in the workplace. "

question... wrote on Jan 18, 2007 9:01 AM:

" I am not a S F'er. Could someone pls enlighten me and advice was a Pace Palette is? I've seen it in this blog and the blog that followed the first story. Thxyou. "

how about wrote on Jan 18, 2007 9:00 AM:

" To Tony S, may I suggest a men of UPS calendar. Those boys in their very drab looking uni's are so cute, not to mention hard workers. You can call it 'The Men of UPS, What Can Brown Do For You'. I'd volunteer my time to help you w/ the calendar. "

Beautiful women wrote on Jan 18, 2007 8:39 AM:

" True beautiful women don't need to take their clothes off! I am proud of my body and could very well pose for the calendar but I have more respect for myself and those women that do NOT need to show the world their goods. Especially if you have children. I am not against doing the calendar but I am happy that State Farm didn't want their name used in a discusting mannor. They are a family oriented company and I like that! NO I don't work for them either... but now I wouldn't mind working there knowing it is a respectable place to work! If this joker wants to do a calendar, have the women pose in nice suits or something. Those women are more classy and beautiful to me! :) "

Bill Lumbergh wrote on Jan 18, 2007 8:30 AM:

" "Uh....yeahhhhh...... I'm gonna ask you to go ahead and cancel that calender plan. M'k? By the way... did you get that memo on the TPS reports?" "

What? wrote on Jan 18, 2007 8:30 AM:

" I was really hoping that they would make a go of this thing. Have you seen some of the ladies in the secretary pool?? Darn it! "

Amy wrote on Jan 18, 2007 8:29 AM:

" I'm with Candy. Surely there have to be some local construction companies looking to raise a few bucks... "

Question? wrote on Jan 18, 2007 7:25 AM:

" Who really thought this thing had a chance? "

to: Ed Jr wrote on Jan 18, 2007 6:36 AM:

" Amen. I'm with ya. I'd certainly buy one. "

Not only State Farm, wrote on Jan 18, 2007 6:27 AM:

" I think that people fail to realize it was not only statefarm that had issues with insurance settlements after Katrina. Other insurance companies were also involved. It is funny how only State Farm gets the blame and not other insurance agencies. "

reader wrote on Jan 18, 2007 6:15 AM:

" I for one wouldn't want to buy "that" calendar. "

Candy wrote on Jan 18, 2007 1:43 AM:

" I would much rather see a construction man calendar. "

Ed Jr. wrote on Jan 18, 2007 12:03 AM:

" I work at State Farm there are some fine fine ladies working here i wish he would have finished this project. Lets get some support behing him and try to get this project going again. It's for the good of the people in new orleans anyways they are not going to have a football team to cheer for after sunday so lets get these fine ladies half nude "

hm... wrote on Jan 17, 2007 10:02 PM:

" You'd think with the recent count decision, the pending class action lawsuit, and upcoming investigation by homeland security that the lawyers would have better things to do than worry about a calender. "

so wrote on Jan 17, 2007 7:32 PM:

" Hillarious. this fellow must not have had a clue as to how things work in there. course, he got lots of free publicity. perhaps he should have made it a calendar for MEN "

Call me cynical wrote on Jan 17, 2007 7:28 PM:

" ...but I think he knew this would happen in the first place. This all sounds like a publicity stunt to me. "

cynic wrote on Jan 17, 2007 7:23 PM:

" Well, we should have known this wouldn't happen. Don't you know State Farm owns it's people? How dare they do anything on their own time without getting State Farm's permission? "

preapproved letter wrote on Jan 17, 2007 7:22 PM:

" I bet this same letter has been sent out to others, so Saluto's letter was ready to be mailed immediately. "

hehehe wrote on Jan 17, 2007 7:20 PM:

" Haha, was that a publicity stunt, knew it wouldn't happen! "

to: I wonder wrote on Jan 17, 2007 7:15 PM:

" Are you a project manager? You sound like someone familiar with State Farm's methodology. Don't forget to notify the planner how many hours you plan on taking to get the pictures taken (or to update him daily on your progress). Oh, and don't forget to tell the testing coordinator when you'll have the forms filled out telling them how you'll decide if the picture is acceptable. Make sure to get the QA guy in on that too so he can pretend to know what you're talking about and make sure the form is properly filled out. "

I wonder wrote on Jan 17, 2007 6:35 PM:

" I wonder how many lanyards the memo had to go to to get approval before CC'ing 40 other disctrict managers prior to being sent to the photographer. "

to: the casual observer wrote on Jan 17, 2007 5:47 PM:

" If they were better than the rest of us, they'd be able to get things done. I guess that's hard to do though when your department has like 2000 managers. "

to: All righty then------- wrote on Jan 17, 2007 5:46 PM:

" Wait, you mean they aren't? "

All righty then------- wrote on Jan 17, 2007 5:35 PM:

" Good, SF dos'nt need a calendar to show how beautiful they are! I"m hoping all the hype will die soon, so SF will stop being protrayed as a joke. "

the casual observer wrote on Jan 17, 2007 5:19 PM:

" Looks like the Farm won another round. Put that on your Pace Palatte and wear it with your lanyard. See, they really ARE better than the rest of us. "

awwww wrote on Jan 17, 2007 5:14 PM:

" I was looking forward to seeing some 766'ers in their undies! "

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